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Post by manimal on Apr 12, 2010 21:51:45 GMT -5
A piece of dialogue that’s been eating at my mind: “Well that would explain the human circumcised dick and why you are running from your life from it”. What does Sam mean by this? Did he examine the werewolf’s corpse and saw it was male? Or is he referring to his troubles of trying to hunt down Brigitte and speak with her? Or is he referring to her alienation to boys in general?
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Post by lordhowl on Apr 12, 2010 23:02:28 GMT -5
A piece of dialogue that’s been eating at my mind: “Well that would explain the human circumcised dick and why you are running from your life from it”. What does Sam mean by this? Did he examine the werewolf’s corpse and saw it was male? Or is he referring to his troubles of trying to hunt down Brigitte and speak with her? Or is he referring to her alienation to boys in general? I think he examined the werewolf's corpse (you saw him doing that in the road scene) and saw that it was not only a male, but a circumcised one as well, unusual for animals, to say the least. Sometimes the literal answer is the best. I don't think he's referring to his trouble finding Brigitte, and I think you could throw number three right out. He doesn't know anything about her at that point. He talked to her once-- briefly up till that time. The reason why I think it's the first is because I think Sam would otherwise know the effect it would probably have on Brigitte (she would say "goodbye") but thought, since he was speaking literally and giving her information, that the matter was important enough that she wouldn't. She did anyway.
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Post by manimal on Apr 12, 2010 23:19:13 GMT -5
Yeah, I was going with the first one as well, but then I thought to myself, A) the transformation much have covered it some, B) that corpse was in pieces, might have been crushed or flew out to the grass.
But like you said, he must have saw the penis on the corpse, dismissing the idea this was just a large dog or a wolf.
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Post by Boehlke on Apr 13, 2010 11:48:20 GMT -5
I've never put much thought into why Sam said that. But I have to agree that it is reasonable to think that he saw the circumcised hoo-ho. But come on, who is that guy? How would ya know how the THING looks like on that kind of an animal? And as manimal said, among a corpse that crushed?
I call it convenience of story... or for, or whatever. hope you catch my drift.
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Post by lordhowl on Apr 13, 2010 13:10:05 GMT -5
I've never put much thought into why Sam said that. But I have to agree that it is reasonable to think that he saw the circumcised hoo-ho. But come on, who is that guy? How would ya know how the THING looks like on that kind of an animal? And as manimal said, among a corpse that crushed? [snip] lol, but you've made the point Boehlke. It was distinct enough that even Sam could see it. I don't think he was the sort of person to make that point to Brigitte right then unless he was convinced. I think he could see where it was, on the creature and what it looked like. I have to admit, I always had a problem with the scene: the creature was just too mangled to make sense, and then, what happened to it? When it gets hit, it almost explodes with blood, like it was a sack of it. I had to attribute it to just bad special effects. In the original script, Sam had a truck, but again, they had to scale back the budget. That level of damage would make more sense if he did, more sense, but it still doesn't make sense. I could explain what happened to it afterward only through some kind of accelerated decay caused by the werewolf virus.
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Post by lordhowl on Apr 13, 2010 13:11:21 GMT -5
Yes, I forgot to say hi manimal. Been a pleasure talking to you so far.
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Post by manimal on Apr 13, 2010 14:02:46 GMT -5
Hehe, thanks lordhowl, and likewise! It’s nice to have someone around to discuss some of the more interesting dialogue in the movie. I recently got back into my Ginger Snaps craze, so yeah. I am thinking of watching “Nothing” (2003) just to see when Ginger Snaps is on TV, movie in a movie.
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Post by Boehlke on Apr 18, 2010 12:20:20 GMT -5
hahahaha! Priceless
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Post by sophielovessam on Apr 30, 2010 13:34:15 GMT -5
hi, new to the site and love it! ok, when Sam said he didnt think of her that way I think he actually does have feelings for her becasue it kind of shows that he thinks of her in a way more than what ginger was implying
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Post by lordhowl on Apr 30, 2010 13:55:21 GMT -5
hi, new to the site and love it! ok, when Sam said he didnt think of her that way I think he actually does have feelings for her becasue it kind of shows that he thinks of her in a way more than what ginger was implying And we are glad to have you with us!
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Post by epiklow on May 1, 2010 19:59:20 GMT -5
That's true & yes, welcome to the site!
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Post by †Wicky Wicked† on May 6, 2010 15:57:23 GMT -5
hi, new to the site and love it! ok, when Sam said he didnt think of her that way I think he actually does have feelings for her becasue it kind of shows that he thinks of her in a way more than what ginger was implying I totally agree on that, and welcome to the site
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Post by sophielovessam on May 7, 2010 20:37:29 GMT -5
thanks, its a great way to express my GS obsession :L
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Post by Grim The Weird on May 11, 2010 17:13:44 GMT -5
im glad i found this site because i thought i was the only one that loved GS xD no one else i know seems to get it... and i got weird looks when i bought the movies that no one else had ever herd of. But i dont care, i know the true genius of these fils. its so much more than a horror film, its about growing up, sisters deep bond, not fiting in, not conforming for normal life, and even love if you accept sam and Brigitte as an item, oh yeah and not to forget a kick ass werewolf movie (just blowing off some steam) now back to the topic i just would like to say that they probably would end up together after going through something like that (if sam had survived). i draw this conclusion because sam shows some intrest in Brigitte, for example : in the scene after Brigitte is pushed down by trina, ginger and Brigitte are sitting in the parking lot after school planing on their revenge. when sam drives off he stops for a few secs and looks at Brigitte (ignoring trina) then drives off, Brigitte seems to notice him looking her way and dosent know how to react so she just tenses up. keep in mind that this is before the werewolf attack so the only explanation for sams actions is that sam is intrested in Brigitte. If you stop to think, another example would be why would sam help Brigitte take on a werewolf when they dont really know eachother that well? in the closet scene sam chooses to go out and lure the werewold so that she dosent have to (even if his arm is in bad shape) wich ultimately leads to sams death. so thats what i think, if you dont agree i would like to hear your ideas
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Post by sophielovessam on May 11, 2010 17:35:21 GMT -5
im glad i found this site because i thought i was the only one that loved GS xD no one else i know seems to get it... and i got weird looks when i bought the movies that no one else had ever herd of. But i dont care, i know the true genius of these fils. im totally the same! i agree with all of what you wrote, but that bit is just the exact same as me!
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Post by Grim The Weird on May 11, 2010 17:54:42 GMT -5
nice to hear u agree xD what do you mean by "but that bit is just the exact same as me!"? u mean i write the same thing? or u ment that thats exacly how you feel?
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Post by lordhowl on May 11, 2010 18:42:49 GMT -5
hi, new to the site and love it! ok, when Sam said he didnt think of her that way I think he actually does have feelings for her becasue it kind of shows that he thinks of her in a way more than what ginger was implying He followed her into that house when he had no other reason to do so. That says he does have feelings for her. I know they would have ended up romantically involved had he survived. Brigitte would have had a huge crush on him, and she would have expressed that sooner had she not been under such stress. Now, when those feelings actually developed, I don't know. While it's tempting to say that look at the school indicated this is negated later immediately after Ginger is bit and Brigitte and Sam actually meet. He is almost sneering toward her and says "Looked like a lycanthrope to me, sir" expecting the word to go over her head and replying sarcastically "Sure you do." There may be a totally different reason he first looked at them, and I might offend you with the suggestion: Ginger. The striking, beautiful red hair. And Brigitte's looking away was explained later in the scene: she fears that Ginger will "go average" on her. Brigitte was not at a stage where she liked the idea of physical attraction, at all.
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Post by lordhowl on May 11, 2010 18:47:51 GMT -5
im glad i found this site because i thought i was the only one that loved GS xD no one else i know seems to get it... and i got weird looks when i bought the movies that no one else had ever herd of. But i dont care, i know the true genius of these fils. its so much more than a horror film, its about growing up, sisters deep bond, not fiting in, not conforming for normal life, and even love if you accept sam and Brigitte as an item, oh yeah and not to forget a kick ass werewolf movie (just blowing off some steam) now back to the topic i just would like to say that they probably would end up together after going through something like that (if sam had survived). i draw this conclusion because sam shows some intrest in Brigitte, for example : in the scene after Brigitte is pushed down by trina, ginger and Brigitte are sitting in the parking lot after school planing on their revenge. when sam drives off he stops for a few secs and looks at Brigitte (ignoring trina) then drives off, Brigitte seems to notice him looking her way and dosent know how to react so she just tenses up. keep in mind that this is before the werewolf attack so the only explanation for sams actions is that sam is intrested in Brigitte. If you stop to think, another example would be why would sam help Brigitte take on a werewolf when they dont really know eachother that well? in the closet scene sam chooses to go out and lure the werewold so that she dosent have to (even if his arm is in bad shape) wich ultimately leads to sams death. so thats what i think, if you dont agree i would like to hear your ideas Yes, I know how that feels. It's why I had to seek a website and had to find this one. This movie works in the way few other horror movies work: you love the characters. The horror comes from your believing and loving the characters and what happens to them. I don't think Unleashed did the original justice, but this movie was really not made to have sequels. Though it does leave Brigitte's heart crushed on the rocks at the end. What a harsh way to lose your childhood.
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Post by Grim The Weird on May 12, 2010 12:43:56 GMT -5
hey sophie sry about the repply to your coment. i notice some parts make no sence, in my defence i claim insanity (actually i was really tired that night)
but nice to know people really feel like i do xD
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Post by Grim The Weird on May 12, 2010 12:57:30 GMT -5
yeah this movie draws u in and you really do conect with the characters. no other movie has ever done that to me so oviously i have to love these fils. i bet that with such good actors (emily and Katharine) any peroson that hasent watched the movies will fall in love as soon as they get a chance to see them xD
i agree with you about unleashed, maybe it was way diferent because it had a diferent director? it would had been better if the end was diferent, maybe briggit getting put out of her misery or someone coming to actually help her before she gets fully transformed.
and a bit of fun trivia for you guys: emily perkins claims that the hospital were they filmed unleashed was haunted O: especially the forviden are. so yeah if you have any trivia or fun facts let me know you guys xD
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