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Post by lordhowl on Oct 19, 2010 18:13:56 GMT -5
You never got the idea that she was likable, but did anybody really hate Trina, and if so, why?
I have wondered if her "relationship" with Sam and if the rumor she spread about him being a "cherry hound" were real. Obviously, Sam had her phone number, now whether he ever did call her is left unanswered in the final version of the film. Of course, all of that could be made up by Trina, which does make her a hell of a lot worse.
Besides that, she cross-checks Brigitte on the hockey field-- but after word got back to her that Brigitte badmouthed her. That's not a good thing, but it's somewhat understandable, not worse than in most high schools. She calls the sisters cunts when she's battered and jilted . . . she tells Brigitte to get her slut sister "a leash" . . .
Was there anything that bad about her?
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Post by sophielovessam on Oct 20, 2010 12:51:49 GMT -5
Well, I think she was the type of person that if you weren't on her side then you were a freak. If you weren't in her group you were screwed. You were and outsider.
I think Sam maybe used her and she was just naive enough to think he would actually want a relationship with her. I think the fact that he had her phone number was a sort of 'i'll call you' not 'give me your number and we can meet up' it was just a way of getting Trina to shut up with the promise that he would call her.
She's seems like the type of person who doesn't like someone unless they're like her. Or unless they're getting more attention than her, since she seemed like on of the popular girls in school.
I don't think there was anything that bad about her, just that she was your average high school bitch. Nothing too sinister really, but yet.. she could have surprised us.
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Post by epiklow on Oct 28, 2010 10:32:16 GMT -5
In the orginal script, Sam refers to Trina as his girlfriend. Booo, I know After Ginger kills her, Sam is actually looking for her. B finds him crying and drinking, and he tells her he broke up with her the night she died, because he thought she was a "pain in the ass." But he also says they had some good times and wondered what she thought of him after they broke up. I'm so glad they changed that in the current script! LMAO. But yeah, I agree. Trina was just one of those, non-open-minded people. I wonder what her home life was like. Cold-hearted parents? Did they ever mention her having any siblings? Maybe she had an older sister, who was like that?
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Post by lordhowl on Oct 30, 2010 0:10:37 GMT -5
In the orginal script, Sam refers to Trina as his girlfriend. Booo, I know After Ginger kills her, Sam is actually looking for her. B finds him crying and drinking, and he tells her he broke up with her the night she died, because he thought she was a "pain in the ass." But he also says they had some good times and wondered what she thought of him after they broke up. I'm so glad they changed that in the current script! LMAO. You know what's so odd about that? In the commentary on the Collectors' Edition, Karen Walton says she originally conceived of Sam's part as being a female tattoo artist, and had in mind somebody to play her. (I use the term, "Sam's part" loosely here as, whoever helped Brigitte). I swear, though, the earliest version of the script I could find (1996) has Sam as, yes, a male. I don't know if John Fawcett forced her to destroy all copies of that version of the script in an attempted cover-up, or what. What especially confuses me is that if I hadn't seen versions of the script from '96, I would would have thought from the commentary that this was a last minute change.
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Post by sophielovessam on Nov 1, 2010 17:23:31 GMT -5
I am so glad Sam wasn't like that little wimp who liked Trina and was so badass and 'I don't gove a shit'.
Maybe because she just thought she would like Sam to be like that and never actually wrote a script like that?
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Post by lordhowl on Nov 1, 2010 19:06:34 GMT -5
I am so glad Sam wasn't like that little wimp who liked Trina and was so badass and 'I don't gove a shit'. Maybe because she just thought she would like Sam to be like that and never actually wrote a script like that? For your last question, maybe, but again it makes me wonder why she would go as far as to have somebody in particular in mind for the part. I've got to think that it was actually a change in direction Walton wanted to make later in the process, because in the scripts I've read, there were some real problems with Sam's character and his exact relationship to the sisters. If I ever get to meet Karen Walton, I'd like to ask her. I think they finally did a great job on all the characters, but in the end, the restraint they showed with Sam's part, was especially good. The way the scenes with Brigitte are edited just hint at things enough.
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