missfirefly
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Post by missfirefly on Jul 23, 2010 13:52:43 GMT -5
This is something I've always wondered. In the scene where Brigitte locks Ginger in the bathroom, Ginger flies into a panic/rage. She also mentions to Bee at another point in the movie, "I can't stay in. I'll go mental," appearing to become a little stressed as she says this. Does this mean Ginger suffers from claustrophobia, explaining which she got so particulary upset with Brigitte? Is it only because of her transformation into a werewolf? Or is it, simply, because she feels betrayed by her sister?
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Post by †Wicky Wicked† on Jul 23, 2010 13:58:09 GMT -5
I think that in the scene where Brigitte locks Ginger in the bathroom she is just angry that Brigitte can do that do her and that her freedom is taken away from her. I think she just falls into rage. But I like you're thinking.
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missfirefly
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Post by missfirefly on Jul 23, 2010 14:00:31 GMT -5
Thank you. ^^ I appreciate you giving your opinion.
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Post by Grim The Weird on Jul 23, 2010 14:12:34 GMT -5
i dont think she is claustrophibic. i think that she says that to show how uncontrolable she has becomed, like a caged animal.
or maybe she was being dramatic (most teenagers are)
but i dont think she is claustrophobic.
thats just me, i would like yo hear your ideas on it.
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missfirefly
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Post by missfirefly on Jul 23, 2010 14:34:43 GMT -5
I like your theories. The truth is, I have no idea if she suffers from claustrophobia or not.
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Post by lordhowl on Jul 23, 2010 20:24:59 GMT -5
This is something I've always wondered. In the scene where Brigitte locks Ginger in the bathroom, Ginger flies into a panic/rage. She also mentions to Bee at another point in the movie, "I can't stay in. I'll go mental," appearing to become a little stressed as she says this. Does this mean Ginger suffers from claustrophobia, explaining which she got so particulary upset with Brigitte? Is it only because of her transformation into a werewolf? Or is it, simply, because she feels betrayed by her sister? It's not claustrophobia. I think it's an effect of the werewolfism on her mind, and it has been done in other werewolf stories: like a wild animal, she can't stand to be locked up, "caged." If it's claustrophobia, other wild animals are claustrophobic, too. So are werewolves in other stories. But it wouldn't be claustrophobia, because she wouldn't have been able to go into the bathroom. No, it's the paranoia any wild beast has of knowing their under something else' control. Also, if she's becoming a feral predator, she's going to want to hunt, and is going to want to patrol her "territory." The very interesting thing to me about her getting that look of dread and saying, "I can't stay in, I'll go mental," is that after saying that, and making it clear how horrid the idea is to her, she apparently obeys Brigitte and stays in! Though, probably she lapsed a little ("I kill pets, Bee!") In fact, deleted scenes make it clear that she makes a good faith effort to stay in, with much anguish and difficulty. Is it only because of the werewolfism or her being upset with Brigitte? Well, that's complicated. Any girl normally would resent being locked in the bathroom by her sister. What makes that different was werewolfism was bending Ginger's emotions so much by that time, so to Ginger, she could only perceive this as a prank or a betrayal. Safety was either irrelevant or incomprehensible to her as a reason by then. This is what I think werewolfism was really doing to her mind: she has no understanding of why her sister actually did it, and doesn't even acknowledge it when Brigitte tells her. Notice Ginger doesn't say anything like, "I won't hurt anybody, really, I'm okay." So, if she even understands safety to be Brigitte's actual reason, she can't even lie about it to attempt to get herself freed. She does plead with Brigitte, though. Even after she gets out and "fucks up," she starts by telling Brigitte "I did not betray you." So, even after disaster proves Brigitte right, she still can't understand why Brigitte locked her up. It's very poignant to me, really; it's what's known as being insane. She's not thinking like a human being anymore. Brigitte's actions aren't even comprehensible to her at that point.
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missfirefly
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Post by missfirefly on Jul 26, 2010 8:57:42 GMT -5
Yep, Ginger had probably lost it by that point in the film. I guess it wasn't claustrophobia after all.
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Post by sophielovessam on Jul 27, 2010 12:52:38 GMT -5
I think you could partly be right. It is, like Lordhowl has said, a caged animal. She was locked alone by herself and maybe being alone by herself would have to make her think about what was happening and she didn't want that.
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Post by kratoskillmachine on Aug 6, 2010 21:28:38 GMT -5
she is not claustrophobic, at that point she is like a wolf, try to put a wolf in a cage and you see how he reacts. sorry bad english
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Post by The Sanity Assassin on Aug 15, 2010 12:31:10 GMT -5
Actually... if anybody ever decided to lock me in a [bath]room, no matter the reasons, I would probably get severe aggressions and might end up banging and kicking against the door as if I lost my mind. And I'm not claustrophobic as far as I know.
Hmmm, Ginger seemed kind of semi-aggressive even before she got infected, so I guess the werewolfism was just adding fuel to the already existing fire. The "caged [wild] animal" state she was in did the rest.
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Post by lordhowl on Aug 15, 2010 16:41:35 GMT -5
Actually... if anybody ever decided to lock me in a [bath]room, no matter the reasons, I would probably get severe aggressions and might end up banging and kicking against the door as if I lost my mind. And I'm not claustrophobic as far as I know. Hmmm, Ginger seemed kind of semi-aggressive even before she got infected, so I guess the werewolfism was just adding fuel to the already existing fire. The "caged [wild] animal" state she was in did the rest. I have to correct you that Ginger was semi-aggressive before. She backed down from Trina on the hockey field after Brigitte was knocked down. Ginger was not aggressive. Maybe passive-aggressive. Your right, though, there's a dimension to this where Ginger should feel a human anger. Hell, she was locked in a bathroom . . . by her little sister! That's a point where the werewolf rage becomes inflamed by very human rage.
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Post by sophielovessam on Aug 15, 2010 16:49:50 GMT -5
Yeah, if my little sister locked my in a bathroom I would go crazy actually. So looking at it from that perspective is easier for me to see why she went crazy.
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