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Post by Boehlke on Aug 25, 2006 11:14:57 GMT -5
lol!
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Post by john on Aug 29, 2006 3:54:49 GMT -5
i saw the annoying downloaded version of GSIII earlier. Stupid audio/video delay. crappy video codec installed.
So.. according to the preacher, all these werewolves attacking the fort and crap is because of the sin the guy with the werewolf son comitted (that is, marrying an indian girl and having a 'mongrel' child).
But the Indian hunter talks about the disease (i assume he meant the whole werewolf curse) coming from when europeans arrived.
in the end I saw this movie more of in a historical context as one sees how all the indians that appeared got killed (as well as everyone else except the sisters of course) and I thought that it was portraying how the early european settlers brought with them this wickedness that was to plague the indians (as seen at the start with the bloodied tent in an abandoned indian camp). I know the movie is trying to show how this curse began as it is the prequel to GS1 but i thought that the movie was made because of the above conclusion (and yes, the movie directors probably did not intend to show it in a way that gets conclusions like mine,IMO).
So what im trying to say if you still dont get me is, that the werewolf curse symbolizes the death and destruction brought about from when the great nations of europe set forth across the pond and came to the new world.
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Post by Boehlke on Aug 29, 2006 4:16:55 GMT -5
I recognize what you're saying, It's a great way of seeing it I think.
These things you talk about, John, really brings depth in to the movie. I never thought about this..
It's like Ginger and Brigitte is some kind of "Jesus" figure then, they get punished for the sins of everyone.. I mean since they are reincarnated, only to suffer more pain. (I do in no way intend to compare Ginger and "B" with some religious stuff, I simply draw a line)
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Post by john on Aug 29, 2006 9:07:15 GMT -5
Yes, in the movie, a view held especially by the firebrand preacher, where marriages between europeans and indians are suppose to be bad. the son of the head guy of the fort being bitten and turning into a werewolf just reinforced that view regarding sinful 'half-breeds' or 'mongrels'.
Also, in the part where Ginger and the hunter start kissing, i thought - and this is only my specualtion, everything is - that because of that happening, now she too has committed a sinful act and will be cursed (yes i know, she was already bitten by the child anyway, but that happening just backs the point about the views held by the other people at the fort towards the main guy's marriage to an indian woman).
Also, where the guy (uh the army guy, the one who reminds me of Mr Sharpe from Sharpe - 19th century napoleonic series) kicks out Milo, the half-indian boy out of the fort because again, of the dislike of them and indians.
the same guy as above also talks of 'getting you, someday' both to the hunter and Milo therefore showing that they associate the bad situation with the indians (in addition to the general percieved white-indian relations in the 19th century of course).
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Post by Boehlke on Aug 29, 2006 9:36:48 GMT -5
There lies wisdom in you're words master John. It's all new thoughts for my mind to devour, and a very interesting theme indeed. I have never looked as deeply into the story as you have, and even though as you say this is only you're speculations, it seems very believable due to the actual " racial problems" at that period of time. This also makes it very interesting when having in mind that Ginger and Brigitte is somehow bound with Indian prophecies within all of this.
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Post by john on Aug 29, 2006 16:11:38 GMT -5
yes, yes young jedi. and i have further speculation to add althought it is not the moment nor hour for this for I have to go to bed to be up early for the first day of my LAST SCHOOL YEAR EVER!!
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Post by Boehlke on Aug 30, 2006 1:21:12 GMT -5
Congratulations! Nothing is as sweet as the last year EVER! lol.
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Post by Dawley on Aug 30, 2006 2:24:06 GMT -5
(grumble) lucky ba...
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Post by Boehlke on Aug 30, 2006 8:07:59 GMT -5
Ok, I created another tread concerning the historical content of the movie. So, John, I would love to hear more of you're opinion and what messages you think may come forth in the movie.
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Post by Ali Vegas. on Sept 22, 2006 20:23:28 GMT -5
the preacher gets killed by the "boss" at the fort.. can't remember he's name though.. ya know, tha boy's father. They called him Wallace.
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Post by Ali Vegas. on Sept 22, 2006 20:24:41 GMT -5
come on! who would not want to be torn to pieces by a werewolf? Yeah he was attacked by the werewolf but he survived the attack with wounds. Wouldn't he have turned in time as well? I think he shot himself because he didn't want to live as wolf. You know?
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Post by Dawley on Sept 23, 2006 9:33:55 GMT -5
That and his loved ones were dead.
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Post by Ali Vegas. on Sept 23, 2006 15:23:36 GMT -5
Yeah. But they were dead before he was attacked. He could have shot himself a while ago.
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Post by Dawley on Sept 23, 2006 20:49:45 GMT -5
I'd say that that was the point where he finally Snapped.
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Post by Boehlke on Sept 25, 2006 1:59:47 GMT -5
lol, that sounded quite awful, hahah "he could have shot himself a while ago" ;D
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Post by Ali Vegas. on Sept 25, 2006 14:26:02 GMT -5
hahah yeahh but you understand right? I mean come on! haha
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Post by Boehlke on Sept 25, 2006 14:45:40 GMT -5
yeah, I totally get you, haha.
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Post by Ali Vegas. on Sept 25, 2006 15:00:18 GMT -5
haha.
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Post by Dawley on Sept 27, 2006 4:03:33 GMT -5
Ha. Ha ha. Heh. Heh heh heh heh heh. Heh. Oui Oui, my precious flower. Mwuh. Mwuh mwuh, ha ha ha. Mwuh. Mwuh mwuh. Ha ha ha ha hah hah ha. Mwuh. Sorry, too much Red VS Blue. Well, I guess that the leader of the fort finally decided that he had nothing to live for. First his wife is killed, then his son is infected. He tries to save him but can't. Then he is infected. Still, that's just my two cents.
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Post by Boehlke on Sept 27, 2006 16:17:23 GMT -5
hahaha, I bet you're death will be by Red VS Blue ;D
I have a great deal of sympathy for the fella though.. Lost everything like that.. bet it really sucks, lol.
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